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Live from Birken: Dhamma Q&A with Ajahn Sona (08.09.2026)

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Dalam sesi tanya jawab langsung dari Birken Forest Monastery, Ajahn Sona membahas berbagai pertanyaan seputar Dhamma, dimulai dengan kabar kebakaran hutan di sekitar vihara dan kaitannya dengan khotbah Api. Ia kemudian menjawab pertanyaan tentang makna hidup, menjelaskan bahwa pertanyaan yang tepat adalah tentang tujuan hidup, yaitu mengurangi penderitaan dan mencapai Nibbana. Mengenai kemarahan dan karma, ia menegaskan bahwa kemarahan adalah ketidakbajikan dan karma baik serta buruk tidak bercampur, masing-masing berbuah sendiri, seperti perumpamaan garam dan sungai Gangga. Menjawab pertanyaan tentang kecerdasan buatan, ia menjelaskan pandangan Buddhis bahwa kesadaran adalah elemen terpisah yang dapat muncul dengan matriks fisik yang sesuai, sehingga mesin pun berpotensi memiliki kesadaran. Terkait kepunahan manusia, ia menekankan bahwa kesadaran tidak hilang melainkan berpindah ke alam lain, dan jumlah makhluk tidak terhitung. Mengenai Islam dan keberagaman, ia menyatakan bahwa semua agama memiliki pandangan berbeda dan sejarah menunjukkan konflik, namun individu tidak dapat mengubah dunia, hanya dapat mengatasi emosi negatif dan fokus pada pengembangan diri. Ia juga menjelaskan bahwa titik buta spiritual adalah delusi (avijja) yang dikenali melalui efeknya seperti kemarahan dan keserakahan, serta dapat dilemahkan dengan mengurangi lima rintangan. Dalam hal karma dan vipaka, ia membedakan antara niat dan buahnya, serta menjelaskan bahwa praktik baik dapat mempercepat atau memperlambat pematangan buah karma. Mengatasi keinginan (tanha) memerlukan kebijaksanaan, bukan pemuasan, karena keinginan adalah kekurangan seperti hutang. Terakhir, ia menyarankan praktik menahan indra dan mengganti hiburan dengan hal yang mendidik, serta merekomendasikan buku-buku untuk pemula. Pesan utamanya adalah pentingnya kebijaksanaan, pengembangan diri, dan memahami hukum karma dalam menjalani kehidupan.

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  1. Pembukaan dan Kabar Kebakaran Hutan
    Ajahn Sona membuka sesi dengan kabar tentang kebakaran hutan di sekitar Birken Forest Monastery, kondisi kekeringan, dan persiapan evakuasi. Ia juga mengaitkan dengan khotbah Api (Fire Sermon) dan mengumumkan proyek pembangunan dapur di Arrow River Hermitage.
  2. Makna dan Tujuan Hidup
    Menjawab pertanyaan tentang makna hidup, Ajahn menjelaskan bahwa pertanyaan yang tepat adalah tentang tujuan hidup, yaitu mengurangi penderitaan dan mencapai akhir penderitaan (Nibbana). Ia membahas pandangan Buddhis tentang samsara dan pentingnya kebijaksanaan.
  3. Kemarahan dan Karma
    Ajahn membahas apakah bertindak karena marah merusak kebajikan. Ia menjelaskan bahwa kemarahan adalah ketidakbajikan, dan karma baik dan buruk tidak bercampur, tetapi masing-masing berbuah sendiri. Ia juga membahas perumpamaan garam dan sungai Gangga.
  4. Kecerdasan Buatan dan Kesadaran
    Menjawab pertanyaan apakah AI adalah bentuk kehidupan, Ajahn menjelaskan pandangan Buddhis tentang kesadaran sebagai elemen terpisah yang dapat muncul dengan matriks fisik yang sesuai. Ia membahas perbedaan antara kesadaran dan materi, serta kemungkinan kesadaran pada mesin.
  5. Reinkarnasi dan Kepunahan Manusia
    Ajahn menjawab kekhawatiran tentang kepunahan manusia dan dampaknya pada siklus kelahiran kembali. Ia menjelaskan bahwa kesadaran tidak hilang, melainkan berpindah ke alam lain, dan jumlah makhluk tidak terhitung. Ia juga membahas konsep kosmologi Buddhis.
  6. Pandangan tentang Islam dan Keberagaman
    Menanggapi pertanyaan tentang Islamisasi Eropa, Ajahn membahas bahwa semua agama memiliki pandangan yang berbeda-beda, dan sejarah menunjukkan konflik antar keyakinan. Ia menekankan bahwa individu tidak dapat mengubah dunia, tetapi dapat mengatasi emosi negatif dan fokus pada pengembangan diri.
  7. Titik Buta Spiritual dan Delusi
    Ajahn menjelaskan bahwa titik buta spiritual adalah delusi (avijja), yang tidak dapat dilihat langsung tetapi dapat dikenali melalui efeknya seperti kemarahan dan keserakahan. Ia membahas cara melemahkan lima rintangan untuk mengurangi delusi.
  8. Karma, Vipaka, dan Percepatan Buah Karma
    Menjawab pertanyaan tentang pemurnian kesadaran dan vipaka, Ajahn menjelaskan perbedaan antara karma (niat) dan vipaka (buah). Ia membahas bahwa praktik baik dapat mempercepat atau memperlambat pematangan buah karma, seperti mematangkan buah dengan cara tertentu.
  9. Mengatasi Keinginan dan Menemukan Kebijaksanaan
    Ajahn membahas bahwa keinginan (tanha) sulit dihilangkan karena disertai perasaan menyenangkan, tetapi dapat diatasi dengan kebijaksanaan, bukan dengan memuaskannya. Ia menggunakan perumpamaan hutang untuk menjelaskan bahwa keinginan adalah kekurangan.
  10. Menjaga Indra dan Rekomendasi Buku
    Ajahn memberikan saran tentang praktik menahan indra dan precept ketujuh, serta pentingnya mengganti hiburan dengan hal yang mendidik dan mengangkat. Ia juga merekomendasikan buku-buku untuk pemula, termasuk karyanya sendiri.
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Welcome to Birkin Forest Monasteries live stream. I'm Adjan Sona. Feel free to submit a question in the question bar and we will proceed.

First, a little bit of news before we answer some questions, because we had some questions sent to us by email about our condition here.

We're in British Columbia, in the southern interior, and we're making news worldwide by apparently being a light, not a light unto the world, but alive on fire.

So, we are drenched in smoke today.

The monastery is at 1200 meters.

Above sea level, which about 4,000 feet elevation, and that helps a bit with smoke.

Smoke tends to collect in the valleys, but in the last few days we've been drenched in smoke as well.

We're surrounded by forest fires.

When I speak of surrounded, though, British Columbia is a very large area.

It is approximately.

The same size as the entire west coast of the United States, California, Oregon, Washington, and throw in Idaho as well.

And then you have the approximate area of British Columbia, just this province.

So, it's a gigantic area.

It is one of the largest pine forests in the world, and it is experiencing a drought for the last several years, and that puts it at it in a very unusual condition.

And so, you probably are seeing on the screen some images of the drought.

Even here, our marsh, which is part of the monastic property, is drying up.

It's about two feet, at least two feet lower than normal.

That's a lot of water, because the marsh itself is at least 60 acres, or what you would call it, 25, 30 hectares.

And that's an enormous amount of water.

That's a lot of water to be down two feet, but the entire interior of British Columbia is under drought conditions, and so the lakes, water, everything is under, is down, snow packs, et cetera.

So, what happens is that the soil itself is flammable.

The top three, four inches of soil, which is often covered with pine needles and so forth, is a spongy material.

And it's actually what they call duff, and it can ignite as well.

So, fires are, when they do set off, they move like a bomb.

To the south of us is a, you may have heard on the news, a town named Summerland, a nice name.

And on Friday night, they had a little fire of something like eight hectares.

Or 20, 20 acres, perhaps.

And suddenly, within an hour, it was 1,000.

Within four hours, it was 5,000 hectares.

5,000 hectares is 50 square kilometers.

And I won't do the math for Americans to turn kilometers into square miles.

Now it's, it's now 10,000 hectares, at least, which is 100 square kilometers.

And so, it's the nature of the fires, they're rated on a scale, how fast they ignite.

So, usually five is the top of the scale, but these are in the six zone.

So, yeah, we're, it's extremely dry and very volatile.

Now, as far as the monastery goes, this affects us.

We, we do a lot of preparation of fireproofing all of the buildings.

We have gravel aprons around all of the buildings and metal skirting and all kinds of things that we invest in.

Because we can't actually afford to insure this place anymore.

It's, fire insurance is too, too high.

This is a characteristic of some of the other monasteries as well, of Bayagiri in California.

It's so, so prone to fire that they can't insure either.

And several, it's going to be, many, many people are going to have this experience.

So, we're sitting here and we have to just, instead of putting the money into insurance, we put it into fire prevention.

We also are, we have extinguishers, we have drones.

So, you're probably seeing some images of the place from the drone position.

Our, our introduction usually before the Q&A is, is our own drone.

Circling the monastery and looking down on it for various seasons.

And today we have some drone imagery around us.

And you're seeing the, how dry the marsh is and, and so forth.

So, we, we use these drones also to spot fires ahead of time because we're in a very isolated area.

And even the fire crews and professionals can't keep up with fires that are ignited by lightning.

So, we...

We basically take responsibility for our whole area through these drones.

And we do fire prevention and we're ready for evacuation and all that kind of stuff.

Right now we're in a retreat.

We also have a retreat going on.

So, various people come to meditate here for a quiet week.

And they are all, we, we inform them ahead of time about all our preparations, etc.

So...

The condition, we could be asked to evacuate at a moment's notice.

And this has happened before.

We have had fire evacuation here.

We just pack up and leave in a, in, within 15 minutes.

And that's how it goes.

So, welcome to the world.

And of course, there is a, a sutta called the Fire Sermon by the Buddha.

The world is on fire.

The eye is on fire.

The ear is on fire.

The nose.

The tongue.

The body.

The mind is on fire.

The fire with what?

Fires of greed, hatred and delusion.

Because the world is all impermanent as well, in a sense it's also continuously passing out of existence.

And we grasp at it.

So, the mind, the eye is on fire.

We're grasping at images and so forth.

Wanting them to stay.

But they, they're intrinsically impermanent.

So, we can really relate to fire.

By the way, if you're interested in English literature, one of the, I think it's T.H.

What is it?

The famous English poet.

T.S. Eliot.

T.S. Eliot, yes.

Yeah.

He is, is it Four Quartets or something like that?

He was actually influenced by Buddhism.

And he, and the Fire Sermon as well.

So, he, you can find in his poetry references to fire and so forth.

And that's influenced by Buddhism.

Yes.

T.S. Eliot.

Thomas Stearns Eliot.

I'm making up for my, my lack of memory of the, of the initials because I actually know his middle name, Stearns.

Okay, so that's the fire update.

We're all right for now.

And we're, we're really well prepared.

So, don't worry about us.

Next, I would like to direct your attention to Arrow River Forest, Arrow River Hermitage.

And that's a affiliated monastery in Ontario near Thunder Bay.

And they have a project going on.

And that is to build a new,

basically,

the, the kitchen area.

A new building so that they can eat.

They have an antiquated building there that's been there since 1970.

And it is falling apart.

And they have been raising funds for this new building.

And they're, they're getting there.

They have initiated the project.

Please go to their website, Arrow River Hermitage,

and look on the, the dining room project.

They have all the drawings.

They've initiated it.

There's pictures of what's going to happen, progress being made.

And they need to, they just don't have enough funds to complete it this year.

So, we are directing your attention to the, to the project so that they can actually get this done.

It's been going on for some years.

Monasteries, again, just work by donations and so forth.

So, if you need new buildings, you just have to wait patiently until people are aware of this.

But it's a good project, a worthy project.

So, please investigate it.

And if you can help, please do.

Okay, let's go to the first question on the, the spiritual board there.

Yes, Ajahn.

The first question, we'll jump around the chat a little bit today.

The first question comes from jckm01.

Dear Ajahn, why are we here?

What is the meaning of life?

And what is one's life's purpose?

Of course, I've been asked this many times.

And over the years, I come up with various answers.

And just, I don't know, it was two or three days ago, I was doing walking meditation.

I was thinking, you know, it's the wrong question.

It's not, Buddhism isn't really interested in the meaning of life.

Its primary focus, this, the, the ultimate good is,

the ultimate good for Buddhism is the cessation of suffering.

So it's not, you're not asking the meaning of life.

You're asking what, what is the means to reduce suffering?

How do we suffer less?

Rather than asking what's the meaning of life,

how do we suffer less and come to the end of suffering?

That is, so the entire purpose of your life is towards that.

You're not asking what the meaning of life is.

You're asking what the purpose of life is.

What is the purpose that you should dedicate your life to?

And it is the reduction of unnecessary suffering.

And that's a very, if there's any meaning at all,

that, that's the most meaningful answer.

Within the, what's called samsara,

the endless cycle of birth and death,

which is the primary Buddhist view of existence,

it ultimately isn't, there aren't sort of stations of meaning in it.

So this is where Buddhism relates quite well to very modern ideas about absurdity,

the meaninglessness of existence, the absurdity of existence,

the pointlessness of existence.

Once the West let go of Christianity

and its various religious ideas about, you know,

going to heaven and so forth,

where an eternal well-being would be found,

they were left with a sense of meaninglessness and a vacuum,

and which is filled in by philosophies like absurdity

and nihilism and all kinds of, or making your own meaning.

This is another, the answer that philosophers like Sartre and Nietzsche gave

is that you make your own meaning.

You just choose something randomly and make it meaningful.

In a sense, that's why Buddhism appeals to a lot of Westerners as well,

because they are very familiar with this feeling that, you know,

it's, if the religious structures formerly of Christianity and so forth

are invalid, then what, you know, what is the, how do you navigate life?

So Buddhism gives an answer where it's not sugar-coated,

it's not like you go to heaven forever, dear, that's all.

It says, no, there is no place, conceivable existence,

wherein you are comfortable and safe.

All of them are impermanent and transient.

So how do, what do you make, what do you do with that?

Your one goal is to exit.

This continuously evaporating kind of situation is to exit.

And the, there's all kinds of similes for this,

is to cross over to the other shore.

You have to get a raft or a boat or something

and help you across the, to the other shore.

And the other shore is the place that doesn't flood,

but it's not actually a place.

So they use these similes like the island and the place

and the this and the that, but actually they're not,

they're not concrete places.

The nirvana, the cessation of suffering is not a place.

It's the evaporation of ignorance is what it is.

And the presence though of knowledge.

And knowledge is not enough itself.

It's got to be knowledge that leads to freedom,

vimuti, or ultimate emotional purification

of all the forms of unnecessary suffering.

So these are emotional,

what we're talking about emotional suffering.

The body remains and the body ages

and gets ill, et cetera.

The Buddha's body did.

The Arahant disciples' bodies,

they had racking illnesses, great pain,

and so forth in the body.

But emotionally they were not distressed about it.

They remained in a state of emotional well-being

in the midst of this.

So that is the aim, the aim, the only sensible aim

is to free yourself from this pursuit

or attempt to remain in samsara,

in some sort of safe form.

It's futile and you must make the escape.

And that is the purpose of life.

Rather than the meaning of life,

it's the purpose of life.

Okay, let's move on.

The next question comes to us from Samrit.

Dear Ajahn,

Does acting out of anger degenerate virtue?

And if yes, how?

Well, the very act of anger is a degeneration of virtue.

It's not virtue.

Virtue itself doesn't degenerate.

You're either virtuous or you're not.

And so it's not a thing.

Virtue is not a thing.

It's an intention actually.

So this is what the Buddha is saying is volition.

Where is morality found?

Where is meaning found?

It's found in intention.

Chaitanya, I say, is kama.

Kama is chaitanya, meaning what is the intention behind the acts.

So that is what virtue you generate moment by moment.

Some thoughts and intentions are virtuous and some are not.

But they don't mix.

Black and white don't mix and become gray.

There's black and there's white.

And when you're angry, you're creating a negative type of kama.

It is not virtuous.

It's unvirtuous.

And then when you're full of loving kindness and generosity,

you're creating positive karma.

Virtue, it's virtuous.

But they're not mixed.

So the positive virtue is not stained by past negative kama.

And the negative kama is not lightened or mixed with the positive karma.

They remain separate issues.

And both of them will have their own fruition.

Positive mental states and so forth will have very positive delightful results.

And negative things will have negative results.

And they're not mixed or neutralized.

Each of them will play out.

And you'll see this in people's lives.

Tremendous beautiful things happen to them and then negative things happen to them.

Polarities happen to them.

What the most fortunate person will have unfortunate situations.

And occasionally a person whose life is riddled with misfortune will have, you know, sudden good fortune.

So you'll see these things are playing out as a kind of unmixed situation.

However, the Buddha did say,

a person who has a lot of good results in their life is primarily a virtuous person.

When they do a small negative thing, it does not saturate their whole life.

So he made the difference between a teaspoon of salt poured into a cup of water.

How does the water taste?

It tastes very salty.

If you pour it into the Ganges River, you hardly notice it.

It would hardly register.

So this is the difference.

A small negative thing done by a good person who's primarily virtuous is diluted, hardly noticeable.

And a person who has very little virtue, very little good karma,

even a small negative deed can saturate their life.

So you think of it as some kid born into a ghetto, very unfortunate circumstances.

They decide that they're going to, they want a radio or they want a music device.

And they see it in a window, they throw a brick through the window and grab it and run.

And they get caught and they end up in jail.

And in jail, one thing leads to another and they get killed in jail.

So they're all of, you know, 18 years old.

And this trivial thing, they snatched something to listen to music with and they end up dead.

In very, very unfortunate circumstances.

And then some guy, a white collar worker, embezzles two, three million dollars or ten million dollars

and he gets public service where he has to go and give lectures to primary school kids, you know, about being good.

.

This is, this is, you see, when you look at the justice systems of the world,

you see extraordinary, inexplicable differences in how justice, so-called justice, comes to people.

It's extreme in one direction and almost without meaning in the other direction.

This is just a kind of a microcosm

.

It's a kind of a microcosm of the karma that's playing out.

By the way, the justice system, the British justice system, which is very advanced, you know,

and has, was advanced even a thousand years ago,

is kind of a, very reflective of the laws of karma described by the Buddha 2,500 years ago.

It's the Buddha's description of how to arrange the sangha

and what, what are bad things to do and good things to do

and what the, the punishments should be and so forth is remarkably advanced.

There's no violence in, in the punishments and so forth,

but there's, there's learnings, learning opportunities, etc.

So his sense of justice and how the universe is embedded with this idea of justice

is reflected in the most advanced civil law in some countries

and is quite remarkable that the courts have a grasp of this.

This is intuitive to humans, to the best of humans.

The worst of humans do not have a grasp of this thing called justice and,

or morality.

There, in, in, in French, there is a description of a, you know, habitual criminal.

They're, they're designated, and this is being the 19th century, moral imbecility.

They're a moral imbecile.

They, they cannot, they have not the intelligence factor of morality.

So they cannot intuit what is right and what is wrong.

Whereas other people have very high intelligence,

but they are not in the moral dimension.

So the Buddha is a moral genius.

And he's not the only moral genius in history.

There are other people who are very, have exalted senses of morality

and they teach others that there are,

it's like a great artist teaches others to see in a certain way through their art.

Or a great musician teaches others to hear in a certain way through their art.

Others can only admire it.

Others, some can have the, is part, partially that intuition.

But to have total intuition about this is, is called genius.

And so the Buddha is a moral genius.

Yeah, let's go on to the next question.

The next question is from John.

Is artificial intelligence a life form?

Not that I know of at the moment.

However, Buddhist ideas about consciousness

would be the most, the easiest way to imagine that it's possible

that a machine could become conscious.

Because consciousness, from a Buddhist point of view,

consciousness is not a, what's called an epiphenomenon of the brain.

Consciousness,

utilizes its interaction with the body.

So the Buddha gives this simile.

He says consciousness and the body,

the mind and the body lean against each other

like two sheaves of wheat in a field.

If you take one away, the other one falls down.

If you take the other one away, the other one falls down.

So body and mind are, rely on each other.

But they're not identical.

Materiality of the body is not consciousness.

And so the brain is not intrinsically conscious.

Consciousness is another element.

And that consciousness can arise

if given the proper matrix, physical matrix,

which is appropriate to consciousness.

So a human body is an appropriate matrix

for consciousness to associate with.

And an animal body is as well.

So these biological organisms

are appropriate for the use of consciousness.

Occasionally consciousness doesn't,

I mean the Buddha goes into the very interesting descriptions,

consciousness arises in the womb.

When the sperm and egg have united,

consciousness, a third element called consciousness,

appears because that matrix is available to it.

So in sort of scientific materialist ideas,

the consciousness is intrinsic

to the information in the sperm and egg.

But from a Buddhist point of view,

there's this separate consciousness

called relinking consciousness.

Relinking consciousness arrives

when the suitable conditions are there with sperm and egg.

Consciousness can lean against it.

And that consciousness then could,

if the mechanical or electrical,

whatever it is, is suitable,

consciousness could arise.

But consciousness is not created

out of sophisticated interactions.

Of materiality.

That's not what,

from a Buddhist point of view.

The great problem in philosophy today

is conscious, what is consciousness?

And they have,

there's at least 20 schools of it,

what it is.

And some of them, you know,

think it's identical with the brain, etc.

Others say it just doesn't add up that way.

But nobody has absolute,

convincing clarity about it.

But the Buddha has,

apparently has, you know,

insight that only perhaps a Buddha could have

and says, you know,

there actually is,

the consciousness is not lost

at the end of the material life.

A lot of the information is transmitted.

It's very similar to our present idea

of transmission through genetics.

Information from the previous,

father and mother,

is transmitted to the new person.

And the information is transmitted through this

infinitesimally small structure,

genes.

And the zygote and so forth.

These are tiny,

you can't see it with the human eye.

And yet all of the information

of a human is supposed to be within,

embedded within that tiny little

microscopic,

blob of genetics.

So this is,

we would explain,

we would say,

certainly there is genetic,

genes are part of it.

But consciousness is something else

than genes.

And it's the mixture of all of these things

that produce a whole being.

Okay, next question.

It looks like a couple questions

came up from that.

I'll go with the

question from XYZ.

Dear Ajahn,

I struggle with the idea of reincarnation.

What would happen to the consciousness

if humans went extinct?

How would this affect the cycle of rebirth?

Yeah, it's not something to worry about

anytime soon.

The Buddha talks that

in terms of the beings in the universe,

by the way,

he is very

copacetic with the

modern cosmological sense of the universe.

The universe is,

present universe is supposed to be

maybe 14 billion years old and

there's gazillions,

that's a special scientific term,

gazillions of

stars and planets and so forth.

How many of them have life?

How many there are

even more advanced than us?

If a world system,

if you began to develop even

a thousand years

earlier than the Earth,

what would,

what is the

possibilities of,

what are we going to look like

in a thousand years?

So there might be world systems out there

that are not only a thousand,

but a billion years older than us

and have evolved through all of these stages.

So the Buddha says

the numbers of beings in the universe

are incalculable.

You can't even,

there's no numbers that are appropriate

to apply to it.

It's incalculable as,

as also the,

does the universe have a beginning or not

in space and in time?

These are called incalculables.

They're not,

the human mind cannot grasp

either of those possibilities.

So,

um,

the idea of,

of humans going extinct

or anything like that is not,

it's not possible.

The only way you exit from samsara

is through full enlightenment.

And that is a very,

uh,

small,

very small number of beings

at any given time.

When Dhamma is present,

the whole idea of samsara

and Nibbana is present,

then perhaps,

those who are serious

and,

and process the eightfold path,

they can exit.

But,

any concern about,

uh,

you know,

extinction of the,

of humanity

because of conditions,

you know,

the,

the world,

the nuclear problems

or a meteor hits the earth

or we manage to heat the earth up

and vanish that way.

Uh,

it's not of any concern

from a Buddhist point of view.

There's,

there's not where,

that's not the source of life.

That's not the ending of life.

Uh,

consciousness just

goes to different

functions and levels

of the environment

and remains there until

suitable opportunities for

taking the,

the form of,

uh,

humans and so forth

or animals or whatever.

So,

it's similar to the

evolution of the earth.

Is the earth supposed to be,

uh,

four and a half billion years old now?

And starting with sort of

blue-green algae

and,

and somehow humans

step out of blue-green algae.

Buddhism has a slightly different

version of this,

uh,

that actually is the descent

of consciousness

from higher states

down into

lower states,

more coarse states.

Uh,

when the situation is available,

consciousness migrates

to it.

So,

this is very similar

to what we were talking about.

Consciousness is not identical

with materiality.

Consciousness is a,

is an energy form

that

utilizes

certain

physical

attributes.

When,

when certain

physical

things are available,

consciousness can associate

with that.

So,

that's how we would think

about this.

Fascinating subject.

I could talk for hours

about it,

but it's,

uh,

I wanna,

I wanna sort of answer

10 questions

in an hour or so.

The next question

is from Tony.

Dear Ajahn,

what should people

in European countries

who see their culture

being Islamized

do?

We know

from history

what happens

to other faiths

and religions

when Islam

becomes dominant.

Uh,

well,

this is the case

all through history.

The,

you know,

the opening chapter

of the,

the Pali Canon

is called,

the,

the Nikaya,

the longer length sayings

and the first one

of this is the

all-embracing

net of views.

So,

the first

sutta

is 62

possible

ways of looking

at the world,

62,

um,

views

or ditties

and these are,

uh,

the word

that we use

in the West

is called religion

and the word

in Buddhism

is called ditti

or view.

So,

everybody has a view.

By the way,

that's their view.

So,

they,

there are people

who say

you can't know anything.

It's,

it's,

it's all just guesses

but none of them

can be known,

et cetera.

That,

that's their view.

That's their,

they have a religious,

uh,

grasp

of that.

And then every,

there's a,

a number,

you know,

all kinds of variations

but they all break down

into a certain

limited,

there's only a certain

number of ways

you can look at things.

One of the basics is

you,

you,

you cease

at death

or you do not.

So,

that's one of the first

big divisions.

So,

most of the,

uh,

and religions

are very sophisticated

in this.

Some,

like,

um,

early Christianity,

uh,

as,

as,

according to

some

Christian scholars,

early Christianity

had both of those ideas.

One is that

a whole bunch

of people

ceased

at death

and

others

persisted

for eternity.

They,

they were both

eternalists

and annihilationists.

In modern times,

in a sense of Christianity

in modern times

is that,

uh,

instead of just

ceasing at death,

those,

those people

who didn't believe

went,

go to hell forever.

Their,

their consciousness

remains in hell forever.

The other ones

go to heaven forever.

Um,

but apparently

in the earlier times,

uh,

it wasn't about

that certain people

went to hell,

they just ceased

to exist.

And then others

who believed,

uh,

you know,

were,

became eternal

in heaven.

Or they were

resurrected.

They didn't,

didn't immediately

go to heaven.

They were,

they just

suspended

and then

at some point

God decided

to resurrect them.

As,

you can see these

variations on,

and all of these views

are,

uh,

listed in the,

the 62 views

in,

uh,

in,

uh,

longer length sayings.

So,

uh,

there's,

there's,

but it's a limited number.

There,

there's only a certain amount

of variations

that you can have.

And Islam is,

has its,

and first of all

Islam itself

does not agree with itself.

There's schools

of Islam,

right?

There's Shia

and Sunni

and all kinds of,

and then there's,

uh,

contemplative

structures,

uh,

as well.

So,

as with any

group of humans

they disagree

with each other.

You know,

we had a rabbi here,

an orthodox rabbi,

um,

and he was saying,

uh,

he was told a joke.

He said,

uh,

there's this,

uh,

Jewish guy

that end up,

uh,

washed ashore

on an island

from a shipwreck.

And finally after

any number of years

the rescuers came

and they discovered

and found him.

And he was very glad,

glad to be saved

and everything.

And there was two

buildings on it.

And they asked him,

what,

what were the two buildings?

He says,

uh,

these are two,

uh,

synagogues.

And,

uh,

why are there two,

there's only one of you,

there's two synagogues.

He says,

uh,

I used to,

I wouldn't set my foot

in that,

that synagogue anymore.

This,

this one is

the orthodox one.

So,

even with one person,

you,

you can have an internal

disagreement

with yourself

over religious views,

let alone

large groups of people.

So,

uh,

yeah,

this is kind of

hyped up.

Uh,

there are genuine,

of course,

there are genuine threats.

Uh,

we can see

in the history

of Christianity,

ex,

extreme,

uh,

persecutions,

extreme,

uh,

uh,

absolute,

um,

fanatic

annihilationism

of other

belief systems

and other people,

um,

et cetera,

in,

so-called

in the name

of Christianity.

But,

which Christianity

is it,

you know?

So,

this is not new.

And,

you can't,

when you say,

you know,

about it,

the individual,

only the individual

has to sort out

the views

that they're,

they're going to do.

You can't sort out

somebody else's views.

You can offer advice

if they're asking.

But,

all you can do,

and it's quite a daunting task

to sort out

your own views

of anything,

you have to

think a lot

and study a lot

and contemplate a lot.

Most people

don't do that.

They tend to just

go to the,

whatever's,

whatever their parents did

or their neighbors do,

they tend to fall

into that

and accept that.

So,

you're asking them

to suddenly

be philosophers.

And people,

most people

are not.

You're not going

to question

your own values.

You're not going

to question the,

the values

of your community.

Most people don't.

Partly because

they're not capable

of it.

It takes a lot

of thought

and intelligence

and study.

And,

most people

don't have the time

for that.

They don't have

for that.

So,

you're,

you,

as an individual,

should not suffer

over this.

You should

say,

I can't

shape the world.

I can't tell

the world

what to do.

And I better stop

having negative

emotions

about

the stuff

that has gone

on throughout

all of history

and will continue

to go on

throughout

all of history.

Much of it

is just based

It's going

to be there.

You can cure

your own ignorance

and it's not by

wishing it away

either.

It's by

replacement of it

by knowledge.

So,

only the individual

will

have the solution

to the

problems

of the universe

because the,

the universe

is just full

of problems.

And that's why

we're actually

headed out

of the universe.

We're headed

to exit.

We're exiting

this,

I think,

Angurang

from Sydney

Australia.

Dear,

Ajahn,

How can I

check

my Spiritual

Blind Spot?

Yeah.

Your Spiritual

Blind Spot

is called

delusion

and

ignorance

Avija.

And it's

very interesting

that you can't

then it reappears. Notice, normally your field of vision appears to be complete, but actually

there is a little spot in there that is absent, but you can't see that. It's only when you

do these tests that you can see that, oh, there's a little spot in my vision field that

actually is not there, and I can't see that, I can't intuit that. So that's ignorance.

You can see, though, the two major effects of ignorance, greed and anger, and they are

the food which keeps the ignorance going. Those you can see quite clearly, you can feel

your own desires and greed, and you can feel your own hostility and anger.

And they are produced by ignorance. So you think, when you feel angry or greedy, you think,

I must be deluded. Although I can't see my delusion, it seems perfectly clear that I should

be angry. It seems perfectly clear that I'm justified in wanting that thing. That seems

perfectly clear to me. Aha, I must be out of my mind.

I am experiencing these irrational impulses which cause me to suffer. Now, if I can say,

okay, in a sense, I'm off my meds. I wouldn't be behaving like this if I was on my meds.

If I was knowledgeable, I wouldn't be saying these things, thinking these things, doing

these things. So therefore, that's the clue. So that's the first thing. Most people don't

accept that anger or greed is...

There's nothing wrong with it. So they're not going to undo their ignorance. But if

you think, yeah, okay, I get it. Intellectually, I see anger and greed are kind of irrational

and they cause distress. And I don't think that's wise. Then you're... Now you're on

the track. So you think, okay, what if I just prevent it? By preventing it, it weakens the

connection to the supply for ignorance.

Okay.

Ignorance itself starts to become less of a power in generating anger and desire. So

in dependent origination, normally you see this kind of clock thing where ignorance is

at 12 o'clock and then there's sankaras or volitions and then there's consciousness.

What comes before 12 o'clock?

Often it's shown at 11 o'clock, it's death. But death doesn't cause the rising of ignorance.

Death has nothing to do with ignorance. What is shown in other suttas is that the primary

cause, the food of ignorance, is what are called the five hindrances. The five hindrances,

anger, greed, agitation, sloth, and doubt, feed ignorance. They... Ignorance depends

on them. And then...

Okay.

Ignorance then feeds back into strengthening the five hindrances, et cetera. So if you can

weaken the five hindrances, you will get a reduction and a clarification. You will start to

feel lucidity and dispassion. And so two things, nibbida and viraga. Nibbida is disenchantment,

and viraga is reduction of desire and craving.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

I don't know about...

I don't know how you feel this in your life. You... This is what meditation does to you.

You suddenly realize you don't... You're not reacting so much. And you don't... You're

not craving so much. What a strange thing. Well, you interfered with the cycle of conditioning.

So this is how you do it. You can't see your blind spots. So you see what feeds the blind

spots. Yeah.

The next question is from Steven. Dear Ajahn, can purifying one's consciousness cause vipaka

to play out sooner than it otherwise would have yeah the Vipaka is the fruit

of action so in the West we use this word karma or comma actually it's now an

English word karma is now in the Oxford English dictionary and Nirvana is in the

Oxford English dictionary because they're really useful words and they

they have in the Sanskrit form Nirvana and Karma have become part of the

regular vocabulary see people say that's your karma that you you something bad

happens that's your karma well it's not your karma actually it's it's your Vipaka

it's the fruit of your karma karma is the intentional action and the Vipaka

is the fruit of that you have a bunch of fruit coming

you can accelerate

you can accelerate

and slow down the process of it you know it's like fruit we should buy from the

market you can but you can speed up the the ripening of your bananas by mixing

them putting in a plastic bag with or apples or something like that don't take

my advice about that but some somehow you can do this so yes you can swamp the

one way is to swamp the whole consciousness with loving-kindness and

it can be a wet blanket on the arising of negative karma it doesn't eliminate

it but it can delay the arising of it if in certain circumstances certain kinds

of karma needs certain circumstances for their fruition for them to arise until

that situation comes along the

they certain negative things can't arise so you swamp it with good things

and that creates that's new karma which creates also good fruit as well the next

question is from ACC monks say intimacy is empty but unfulfilled desire is a

huge trap is a completely inexperienced minds desire more powerful than a jaded

playboys how does one reach nibbida without

tasting the candy well that's the problem actually

desire is it is less blank less blameworthy and it is but very hard to

get rid of so the Buddha talks about these three things anger is a great

stain on the personality but it's easier to get easy to get rid of desire is a

lesser stain on the personality it can Q does it grow and does you grow longer thy still rather than a person that dreams of world husbands嘴

personality and very hard to get rid of. Ignorance is a great stain on the personality and very hard

to get rid of. So why is anger a great stain? Because, you know, hatred and negativity and all

this distorts the thoughts and then violence and all kinds of stuff come out of it. And

why is it easier to get rid of? Because it is intrinsically unpleasant. To be angry is

to have a state of a negative feeling. It always arises with negative feelings. So most

people are quite open to the idea that they'd like to get rid of negative feelings. So they're

open to the idea of being less angry. It's very easy. Desire though is accompanied by

pleasant feelings. So people are much less open to the idea of getting rid of desire

because it's accompanied by pleasant feelings.

And it doesn't seem to have such terrible results. We all form a nice wine appreciation

club or things like that. We celebrate our desires and even get status in society because

of your desires. So that's why it's really, really hard to get rid of it. Now, do you

need to fulfill your desires before you realize how...

that they're problematic? No. You only realize this through wisdom. You realize that every

time you have... every time you want something, that the very moment you want something is

the moment you lack something. You are the one that put yourself in a state of lack.

To want... this is the old English term. One wants this, meaning one lacks.

It's identical to being put in deficit. So the moment you want is the moment you lack.

The Buddha says it's similar to being in debt. A man is in debt. He goes into business and

he has to borrow a whole bunch of money. And he lives anxiously until the day that he finally

pays off the debt. So the moment he pays off the debt, he's free of this debt. Desire is

debt. So you're in debt. As long as you have desire, you're in debt.

And then to overcome desire and free yourself from that is the moment the mortgage is paid

off. The business loan is paid off. And it's a... people celebrate this. Nobody wants to

be in debt. They would like to be out of debt.

And so this is like, do you want to walk around in a state of lack all the time, in a state

of hollowness, missing something? Or do you want to feel full and at ease? Take your choice.

That's an intellectual process. It doesn't mean that you've gone through 700 girlfriends and now

you understand. I get it. It's not worth it. No, it doesn't work that way. Ask Don Giovanni,

whatever his name is. Don Juan. Go and watch the opera.

Yes. The next question is from CLB105. Hello, Ajahn. Can you please talk about how I can

overcome this sense restraint and the seventh precept long term, without falling into dullness

and depression? To what extent could generosity and kindness help to overcome this dullness?

Well, it's entertainment and singing, dancing and so forth. Yeah, most people have

trouble living without that. And you can start by shaping it. It's not like don't indulge

and the frivolous stupid stuff you know just to pass the time uh at least choose something

that educates you or and elevates you and there are there's good literature out there uh things

that uh ex you know help produce the the qualities of generosity and kindness and loving all this

stuff and so it you know frivolous things or just leaving the radio on all day long playing the

top 40 you know just it's just it's just a pointless mind-numbing stuff so if you're going

to listen to something choose great things that uh perhaps produce a better or loftier sense of

emotion in you um because just abandoning these things is not uh does not conduce to growth

monks are asked not

to do that because they have a replacement there's they're forced forced to rely on their

the time to pushes them into meditation and that's a form of uh deep learning and it has its

own gratification you have to think about things you're you're forced to and you don't have the

option to distract yourself for lay people it's hard to force yourself into that austere lifestyle

and you don't

have a surrounding sangha to support the meditative lifestyle so you're you're going to have you're

going to probably indulge in some of these things but try to choose ones that are elevate you and

increase your sense of compassion if you read uh charles dickens you're going to um

through the my great mind of a great artist you're going to be

start to have sense of compassion for the state of beings you know what is it like

to be an eight-year-old kid wandering the streets of london without parents

falling in with a bunch of other ragamuffins and stealing and you know at the mercy of adults that

are manipulating it's a terrible situation but most people are too callous to see it so you

have to look through the eyes of a great person in order and it opens your heart to this whole

situation so that caused whole social revolutions you know when a person can describe the situation

from the outside to the inside and to the inside they can't see it they can't see it so they can't

see it so they can't see it so this is the right thing to do and when you start to go into it

so this is what art great literature is that's elevating it's not it it's not just entertaining

or distracting it's elevating so you can you can read these i mean if you read the suttas there are

all kinds of stories like this it's it's literature as well and it's elevating literature so you can

find dhamma in in literature and art you can find this uh to help elevate your your consciousness

Okay, one last question.

Yes, Ajahn, the final question for today is from Sivigan.

Dear Ajahn, do you have a recommended book list for a beginning Buddhist?

Yes, go to Birkin Forest Monastery, birkin.ca,

and we have a list of books, basic books that we recommend.

The Noble Eightfold Path by Bhikkhu Bodhi,

The Words of the Buddha by Bhikkhu Bodhi.

There's some books by Ajahn Sona on there.

So yeah, let me advertise.

This is one, it's called Life is a Near-Death Experience.

So this is a small book, you can get it off Amazon.

And this one is called What Comes Before Mindfulness?

And this is the, mindfulness is universally taught now,

but it's not Buddhist mindfulness, it's not right mindfulness.

In order for it to be right mindfulness,

it has to be connected with the previous path factor,

which is called right effort.

So this whole book is about that, and it's by me, and it's on Amazon.

Okay, and so go to the book list on our website,

and it'll give you all the ones that we recommend,

because there's a lot of stuff out there,

and a lot of stuff is not appropriate to the Theravada schools,

not appropriate to Buddhism in general.

There's a lot of opinions, a lot of nonsense,

and a lot of misinformation.

So we've tried to preselect some stuff, yeah.

Is there another book coming out soon?

Yes, there's another book.

So this book, Bloom, by me, is no longer available.

We decided to re-edit the entire thing,

re-write the entire thing,

and it will be coming out as Cool Head, Warm Heart,

I don't know, within, maybe,

probably by the beginning of, end of this year.

And you can see it on Amazon, yeah.

Okay, that is it for today,

and we hope that you are well,

if you're in the smoke area,

because lots of people in British Columbia watch this as well.

Be prepared, always be prepared to leave.

Notice that some people are very reluctant,

very clinging to their place.

You've got a choice, your money or your life.

You have to sometimes just leave all your possessions behind,

and they may not be there when you come back,

so that's also a lesson in Buddhism, yeah.